tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post7439507334217605747..comments2023-10-31T11:37:50.028-04:00Comments on on life & other inconveniences: The Greatest MistakeSandra Ruttanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-8927858324087904502007-08-02T23:30:00.000-04:002007-08-02T23:30:00.000-04:00Peter, as the population ages, perhaps that will b...Peter, as the population ages, perhaps that will be a growth industry.<BR/><BR/>(I know, I know, I'm going...)Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-81910919166380219202007-08-02T22:59:00.000-04:002007-08-02T22:59:00.000-04:00Wow, hookers being treated in a hospital that offe...Wow, hookers being treated in a hospital that offered only long-term care for geriatric patients. Now, <I>that</I> opens up a universe of possibilities.<BR/>===================<BR/> Detectives Beyond Borders<BR/>"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"<BR/> http://detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com/Peter Rozovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09977933481463759162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-76332791413482390062007-08-02T12:34:00.000-04:002007-08-02T12:34:00.000-04:00To be technical... it was Reed Diamond as Terry Cr...To be technical... it was Reed Diamond as Terry Crowley, not Kellerman!<BR/><BR/>And you're probably right about why The Corner isn't as appreciated, but anything DS touches is pretty much genius.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-16809436246893827632007-08-02T09:04:00.000-04:002007-08-02T09:04:00.000-04:00Kellerman was in the very first episode of The Shi...Kellerman was in the very first episode of The Shield and was killed at the very end. <BR/><BR/>Also, on the other side of the coin is The Corner. This is Simon's forgotten masterpiece. It is a real transition piece from what he was doing in Homicide to what he would do in The Wire. <BR/><BR/>I think it may lack popularity because of its subject matter. A tapestry of junkies instead of a tapestry of cops. <BR/><BR/>It too is just brilliant.Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-78009490182022343662007-08-01T21:57:00.000-04:002007-08-01T21:57:00.000-04:00Peter, and error that put me off a book had to do ...Peter, and error that put me off a book had to do with a mistake with a hospital in a setting I was familiar with... but it wasn't the mistake that put me off. It was the fact the author wrote a paper on how to properly research for your novels. I'll be the first to say I've made mistakes and am sure I'll make more over the course of time. It's bound to happen. But if you set yourself up as an authority and say 'this is how to do it' then you better get it right, and it was two simple facts. All you had to do was google the hospital's name and it came up first set of hits that the hospital had been closed for a few years, for one thing. Plus it was long-term care for geriatric patients, no ER, no onsight surgeries, but the author had hookers being treated in its emergency ward. Sorry, lived a few blocks from the hospital and my best friend worked there for years, so I knew all about that, but when one minute on the internet would establish that, well... <BR/><BR/>Kris, my best friend is a nurse, her husband a firefighter. They do that to me all the time.<BR/><BR/>David, I would agree with you about <I>Homicide</I> - there's no way we would have purchased the DVD set if we didn't think it was top notch. Doesn't mean there weren't a few blips, but overall one of the very best shows ever put on the air, although yes, the last few seasons had some issues. In fact, I thought what happened to Kellerman was unfortunate. Andre Braugher is amazing, and the pairing of Pembleton and Bayliss is my personal favourite. The episode that always comes to mind is from season 1 or 2, the one where they're trying to figure out who lights the candle in the squad room. You just didn't get that quality of character development in most shows on tv. Not heavy handed or overdone, although after watching the series through now, I cringe hearing all the music and how its used to manipulate emotional response or set up the viewer for what's about to happen - this is what happens if you listen to too many Wire commentaries, you become a tv critic. <BR/><BR/>In my book, anything that stems from David Simon is worth watching. He's a genius. I've probably watched every season of The Wire five times through and he remains the only person in film/tv I'd love to interview.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-87402947208851377872007-08-01T20:45:00.000-04:002007-08-01T20:45:00.000-04:00Homicide was a wonderful show. Great cast, great s...Homicide was a wonderful show. Great cast, great scripts and the location was perfect. I think the last few years of the show got weak as the cast turnovered, but in the end it was the real deal. Andre Braugher was wonderful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-40991487048844560332007-08-01T18:16:00.000-04:002007-08-01T18:16:00.000-04:00Yeah, inside knowledge is an excellent way to spoi...Yeah, inside knowledge is an excellent way to spoil wonderful storytelling.<BR/><BR/>Here in Oz, there's a medical drama called <I>All Saints</I> that from a characterisation and storytelling perspective is just superb. However, I have a friend who is a nurse, and when I mentioned this to him, he and his wife (also a nurse) exchanged a knowing look. They then proceeded to tell me how unrealistic the various medical procedures were.<BR/><BR/>Ignorance really is bliss sometimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-51678554265608200792007-08-01T17:34:00.000-04:002007-08-01T17:34:00.000-04:00Peter, there's an argument to be made there about ...<I>Peter, there's an argument to be made there about not reading things that are set where you live or involve things you have a lot of inside knowledge on, because you'll be pickier.</I><BR/><BR/>I’ve often said that I have an uneasy feeling about reading stories set in areas I know well. Perhaps this is part of the reason.<BR/><BR/><I>And I have come to the point where I feel that plausibility is more important than reality sometimes.</I> <BR/><BR/>Of course. Fiction’s job is to be convincing, not accurate. That’s why I offered practical objections to errors: They distract the reader from being convinced.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I can't think of any errors that put me off reading a book or story. The example I gave in my post just made me roll my eyes a little. I then resumed my reading.<BR/>==========================<BR/><BR/>Detectives Beyond Borders<BR/>"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"<BR/> http://detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com/Peter Rozovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09977933481463759162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-40609846986535991012007-08-01T16:53:00.000-04:002007-08-01T16:53:00.000-04:00Peter, there's an argument to be made there about ...Peter, there's an argument to be made there about not reading things that are set where you live or involve things you have a lot of inside knowledge on, because you'll be pickier. And I have come to the point where I feel that plausibility is more important than reality sometimes. Here's an example: a book I read had a suspect flee across the border and when the US cops found a vehicle abandoned they phoned the RCMP to check on the owners in Ontario. The jurisdiction for the location is Ontario Provincial Police. But then, if pressed to explain the difference between the various forms of law enforcement officials in the US, I'd be hard pressed to do it. Someone tells me it's a sheriff in one setting, it's a sheriff, someone tells me detective I don't look it up. I ask, "Is this plausible?" If so, fine. Of course, if I know differently, then there might be an issue... But that's why I don't watch much tv anymore. They certainly have the money to research and get it right and have no excuse for getting it wrong. I can at least appreciate the limitations put on authors who can't even earn a living from their writing, and therefore might not have a chance to visit their setting while writing the book. It must be easier now with the internet, but still not perfect.<BR/><BR/>Brian, Mike Kellerman was on The Shield? How'd he get a job after losing his badge? I'm so confused. ;)<BR/><BR/>Monsoon season? Sound fun.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-2274679138510438472007-08-01T16:13:00.000-04:002007-08-01T16:13:00.000-04:00The greatest mistake you can make is letting your ...<I>The greatest mistake you can make is letting your life slip by.</I><BR/><BR/>Totally.<BR/><BR/>We've had some wild weather here. It's monsoon season.Mindy Tarquinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970872751327021013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-3168023562135773952007-08-01T16:06:00.000-04:002007-08-01T16:06:00.000-04:00Plus, I think we can all agree the Mike Kellerman ...Plus, I think we can all agree the Mike Kellerman was a punk and deserved what he got in Homicide and The Shield. <BR/><BR/>He could NEVER fill Crosetti's shoes.Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-14610250630599381062007-08-01T15:53:00.000-04:002007-08-01T15:53:00.000-04:00The Homicide mistake is a lot more serious than yo...The <I>Homicide</I> mistake is a lot more serious than your his/he error. I might not have caught the error about entry being barred after an arson fire and likely would have overlooked the failure to quarantine the bodies as well. But viewers who did notice them were pulled right out of the story -- not a good thing.<BR/><BR/>But hell, the heroes of these shows are crime-solving American supermen who can go anywhere, smell anything.<BR/><BR/>A joke, of course. But I recently drew a fairly big response on my blog when I asked readers for errors that drove them nuts. Make a mistake like some of those, and suddenly no one's talking about your great plot and characters, they're talking about how lazy and even stupid you and your editor are. Readers (and viewers) want to be pulled into a story and resent being yanked out of it by a mistake. <BR/>==============<BR/> Detectives Beyond Borders<BR/>"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"<BR/> http://www.detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com/Peter Rozovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09977933481463759162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-76078637265481506342007-07-31T17:38:00.000-04:002007-07-31T17:38:00.000-04:00At the rate I'm going Patti, I'll forget it and re...At the rate I'm going Patti, I'll forget it and re-learn it at least half a dozen times this decade!Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-53640166883386493912007-07-31T17:00:00.000-04:002007-07-31T17:00:00.000-04:00I'm glad you discovered the no risk adage in your ...I'm glad you discovered the no risk adage in your thirties. Discovering it ten years later is bad/pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-52822498316126609672007-07-31T14:47:00.000-04:002007-07-31T14:47:00.000-04:00Well Brian... I hate to say it, but Homicide tread...Well Brian... I hate to say it, but Homicide treads the line on their fire episodes. I know it's TV but NOBODY would be allowed inside a building just after an arson fire (no hot spots?) at the very least without a helmet. <BR/><BR/>In a way, doing research and knowing stuff really undermines the enjoyment of a lot of TV. I'm drawing the distinction in my writing, and going for plausibility not reality. Sometimes, reality is harder to sell than fiction, and sometimes that's because of the prevalence of errors elsewhere.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-82661830412187458492007-07-31T14:02:00.000-04:002007-07-31T14:02:00.000-04:00I blame the mistake for this episode on the associ...I blame the mistake for this episode on the association with L&O. <BR/><BR/>L&O obviously tainted Homicide, anyone can plainly see that. :)Brian Lindenmuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02519203797661128049noreply@blogger.com