tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post3947814976674435717..comments2023-10-31T11:37:50.028-04:00Comments on on life & other inconveniences: Sense of PlaceSandra Ruttanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-35166801151043766782007-07-11T17:01:00.000-04:002007-07-11T17:01:00.000-04:00It's no surprise Chandler used chesterfield. Even ...It's no surprise Chandler used <I>chesterfield</I>. Even if the term was not current in the U.S. when he was writing, Chandler was educated in England. One of the strange things for me as a Canadian living in the U.S. is that people here think <I>entrée</I> means <I>main course.</I><BR/>===================<BR/> Detectives Beyond Borders<BR/>"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"<BR/> http://detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com/Peter Rozovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09977933481463759162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-41527604888002830832007-07-09T10:34:00.000-04:002007-07-09T10:34:00.000-04:00"or is it only that the media focuses in on us bec..."or is it only that the media focuses in on us because of the socio-economic stereotypes."<BR/><BR/>Interesting question. I used to live in New Westminster. The river and the dark line at the top are the city borders, so <A HREF="http://www.nwpolice.org/crimemaps/07-04%20-%20TOA.pdf" REL="nofollow">if you look at this</A> you'll see being a victim of some types of crime is really an equal opportunity experience there. Yet certain areas are written up as worse than others, and I guess they are. I chose not to live two blocks from where the working girls... work.<BR/><BR/>Sounds like you have an interesting idea for a series, though.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-3732535928802545082007-07-09T03:34:00.000-04:002007-07-09T03:34:00.000-04:00I've always wanted to write a crime series novel f...I've always wanted to write a crime series novel featuring a woman. Living in St Albans, Melbourne, which is also where I set my young adult novel makes me realise it's the perfect place to write a crime novel. It seems like most of the crime that happens in my area, or is it only that the media focuses in on us because of the socio-economic stereotypes. Will check out the discussion on crimespace. Sounds intersting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-57184864090225855712007-07-08T22:50:00.000-04:002007-07-08T22:50:00.000-04:00Patricia, for some reason I now have Kim Mitchell'...Patricia, for some reason I now have Kim Mitchell's "Might as Well Go For A Soda" running through my head. Curses. I may have to lie on the chesterfield and watch some tele to get it out.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-34695438961678257522007-07-08T22:41:00.000-04:002007-07-08T22:41:00.000-04:00I love this whole couch/davenport/chesterfield/sof...I love this whole couch/davenport/chesterfield/sofa<BR/>/settee discussion(and yes I remember hearing all of them)and what is funnier than the pop/soda/coke one is for me as a Canadian to ask nicely in a restaurant where the washrooms are and I am met with a blank stare...opps sorry restrooms and I have a friend who routinely calls her purse a pocketbook...another Canadianism is asking for a napkin at dinner instead of serviette usually ends in weird looks alsoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-40858785779852927902007-07-08T12:50:00.000-04:002007-07-08T12:50:00.000-04:00Actually Sandra, when it comes to little things th...Actually Sandra, when it comes to little things that make a region individual, I don't think they ever die. There will always be someone who says chesterfield instead of couch. How do I know? My grandma still occasionally calls her couch a davenport-why? I have no idea, but my grandpa called that too and oddly enough the name will pop in my head. I've never used in conversation, but I know about it.<BR/><BR/>She also calls her purse her pocketbook, so there are some things that will live on I guess.<BR/><BR/>The soda/pop/sodapop/cola/coke thing is a huge debate here in the US depending on where you are. That's the thing about language that this journalist doesn't seem to get-it's fluid, it's always changing. Fifty years from now his kids will be complaining the loss of some word or turn of phrase that they grew up with that they feel is completely Canadian. Eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-27016054483416920952007-07-08T12:07:00.000-04:002007-07-08T12:07:00.000-04:00Yeah, it's probably time to stop that conversation...Yeah, it's probably time to stop that conversation Norby!<BR/><BR/>Chris, in truth, I'm not sure how common it is now. Sofa is so much shorter to say, and you know how lazy people are.<BR/><BR/>I can say doxy, bulls, heaters and jake. In Alberta, there are always bulls for sale. <BR/><BR/>And I hate word verification. If it wasn't for evil spammers, it wouldn't be on. <BR/><BR/>Christa, I don't know how people can do driving directions. I definitely lean on the 'less is more' there. But then, I can map read and dictate when driving, but if it's abstract with no visual it's like someone asking me to do complex math in my head without writing it down. I actually can do that, but it frustrates me because I'm out of practice. (I'm not an auditory learner, so that doesn't help, although I can memorize whole conversations and recite them if I'm inspired to do so. Weird, eh?) <BR/><BR/>I think you'll be fine with your ms. Stick to what's essential for the framework of the story. And look at Bruen - how does he do it?Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-38375103163443814402007-07-08T12:00:00.000-04:002007-07-08T12:00:00.000-04:00Thanks for the shout-out, Sandra. I didn't talk ab...Thanks for the shout-out, Sandra. I didn't talk about this much on the thread, but I really struggle with setting. I set my novel in the NH town where I lived for 11 years as a teen/young adult. Still, as you pointed out, there are truisms about a place that teens don't notice. I have very general random observations about these places I haven't lived in for 10 years, like the change in demographics to reflect people who work in Boston but live further and further away. Along with the fact that development has tried to accommodate them, and thus pushed out lower income people (college students, blue collar families, etc.).<BR/><BR/>Still - my protags are cops working a stressful murder case. How much of this stuff would they really think or talk about? I tried inserting a few aspects and they were sooooo awkward. Then I went back and re-read some Julia Spencer-Fleming. Somehow she can literally do driving directions and make them seamless - along with the small-town political stuff you mention.<BR/><BR/>So that's why I started that thread - try to figure out how I can get around these problems! (I guess I should post this comment there too, then...)Christa M. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14384508556022159789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-14597989006299993242007-07-08T11:56:00.000-04:002007-07-08T11:56:00.000-04:00I had no idea 'chesterfield' was a common Canadian...I had no idea 'chesterfield' was a common Canadian term; Chandler routinely uses it in his fiction, and that's the only place I've come across it. If you say 'doxy' and 'bulls' and 'heaters' and 'jake' as well, I'm SO moving.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, I think your word-verification thingy is a bit of a rabble-rouser: there are three, count 'em three, Zs in my word. That's 'Zee' from where I'm sitting, but what the hell do I know?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06286520897538327919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-12290505795092274182007-07-08T11:40:00.000-04:002007-07-08T11:40:00.000-04:00I won't even suggest what your butt must be made o...I won't even suggest what your butt must be made of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-34474393851950801292007-07-08T11:23:00.000-04:002007-07-08T11:23:00.000-04:00Ha ha. Maybe the fact that I can sit on a chester...Ha ha. Maybe the fact that I can sit on a chesterfield suggests to you that I'm the evil twin of Thumbelina.Sandra Ruttanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109584805469336742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18499463.post-19859061273947471282007-07-08T11:14:00.000-04:002007-07-08T11:14:00.000-04:00Hey Sandra-someone should tell that guy a chesterf...Hey Sandra-someone should tell that guy a chesterfield is a cigarette, not a couch. Man, you Canadians have lots of stuff backwards. The pop thing is okay-that's what I drink too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com